My response to Rudy
The post that will probably get me banned, if not at least warned. Rudy said it was interesting that other poster don't get criticized the way that he does................
My response to him:
What's interesting is that Cahaya asks for opinions on both sides in a non judgemental way and appears to have an open mind and seems to be truly interested in both sides. Quite honestly you try and shove your Dogma down our throats, you judge us even though you try to say that you don't. You repeatedly have compared homosexuality to incest, polygamy and beastialty whether or not you will admit to that here. You continue to insult and continue to offend many people here, both gay and straight even though you say that is not your intention. You try to hide your bigotry behind your bible and your God and religion and nobody is buying it any longer.When you can propose a question in the same manner as Cahaya then perhaps you won't undergo those criticisms.When you take a look around and see that everybody else seems to have a problem and you are the common denominator, perhaps everybody else isn't the problem.There are a handful of other posters here who are anti gay marriage and you are right, they don't get the criticism that you do. There must be a reason for that. Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror and figure out why that is.
My response to him:
What's interesting is that Cahaya asks for opinions on both sides in a non judgemental way and appears to have an open mind and seems to be truly interested in both sides. Quite honestly you try and shove your Dogma down our throats, you judge us even though you try to say that you don't. You repeatedly have compared homosexuality to incest, polygamy and beastialty whether or not you will admit to that here. You continue to insult and continue to offend many people here, both gay and straight even though you say that is not your intention. You try to hide your bigotry behind your bible and your God and religion and nobody is buying it any longer.When you can propose a question in the same manner as Cahaya then perhaps you won't undergo those criticisms.When you take a look around and see that everybody else seems to have a problem and you are the common denominator, perhaps everybody else isn't the problem.There are a handful of other posters here who are anti gay marriage and you are right, they don't get the criticism that you do. There must be a reason for that. Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror and figure out why that is.
posted by Bravie at 7:50 PM
90 Comments:
*smooch* That thread won't even open for me. Lowspeed cable connection.
I'd like to point out that your bannable response to someone else was the first blog entry of your that I ever read.
Heh. This is true and I didn't even get a warning for that. Somehow I think calling her a bigot and calling Rudy a bigot may be different. I hope not, but if so, it was at least worth it to tell Rudy that I know he is a bigot.
*smooch*
It's taking long for me too and I'm on DSL.
I'm DSL too, what post # was that? I wanna see it for myself. And if you get banned I will finally understand how some felt when the other two got banned, beyond pissed! Dammit, Carey. You better not get banned.
Wait. You actually posted that?
I thought this was like the time you yelled at DL in here, but not there.
OMH.
You better not get banned.
I'm almost done looking for it and I'm thinking I mistook it to mean that she DID when maybe she meant she WANTED to. Give me another minute...
Post #245. And yep, I posted it there. *gasp*
*holds on to the handrails*
Post #242. She did it. :O
Ack!! you're right. It was post 242, not 245. 245 was my response to Syren.
If you get banned, I swear, I will kick your ass.
I love this post and *heart* you. I couldn't think of anything better to post than insults to Rudy so I refrained from posting in that thread much like all deep end threads but I'm there with ya in spirit.
I *heart* you!
It needed to be said, but gawdferbid you better not get banned!
Amen. FWIW, I added a post just to agree with you. I think that you can get away with it more easily than I could because you are much less of a rabble rouser than I am.
Ok, sweetie. I want to post right under you and say right on.
Will that get me banned?
*smooch* for YOU being so brave.
hence, we have met bravie; knockers will return after a short hiatus.
My response to you over there:
post 254.
Sorry hon- if you're goin down, I'm goin down w/ ya.
Oh bravie, how I love you. I know it hurts you to read these views, and I applaud your bravery for taking a stand here.
A few quotes that I believe are applicable:
"Bigotry dwarfs the soul by shutting out the truth. "
-Edwin Hubbel Chapin (American Minister, 1880)
"Bigotry murders religion to frighten fools with her ghost."
-Charles Caleb Colton (English Writer, circa 1800)
"Too small is our world to allow discrimination, bigotry and intolerance to thrive in any corner of it, let alone in the United States of America. "
-Eliot Engel
And finally, and I believe most importantly-
"We created ways for people to care more deeply about one another, to stimulate, encourage, release creativity, minimize intolerance and bigotry."
-James Rouse
Rudy, I believe you have stated in the past that you are pro-life. You have said that no abortion is humane. If ALL fetuses deserve to become babies, and ALL babies deserve to be born, is it then such a leap to give ALL of those grown babies equal respect and equal rights not only under law but also amongst one another?
Now, if only someone else hasn't already said all this and I missed it, and get another helmet....
I am so proud of you!
I'm proud of you too and, quite frankly, I see no reason that would get you banned. *reads it again*
Thanks everyone. The more I thought about it, the less I worried about it. Rudy specifically opened the can of worms by pointing out the fact that he is criticized and nobody else is. I wasn't bashing him, I was offering an explanation. And everyone who responded to me just enforced that fact.
We'll see if he has any response or not. It will be interesting.
Side note: I sure hope I get to play today. My internet here at work is acting up. *sigh*
There shouldn't be anything bannable about that. You didn't bash HIM directly...
*smooch*
It was well deserved.
The thread will probably be locked before too long just because it's getting so darn big!
I had thought about saving the entire thread to my computer. Luckily HD saved the good parts in his blog so now I don't have to save it.
Carey,
I'm glad you can write and get some of this off your chest. Today is election day and I can't wait till lunch to go vote since I missed early voting.
*applause* Bravo Carey. I don't see how that would get you banned at all. It was very well written and I'm glad you wrote it. I'm only sorry that I can't access OT from work so that I can add my voice. *HUGS*
I'll be going with Michelle after work to vote. *BIG GRIN*
Well done!
He is a horrible little man.
Lvoe ya all!
Off to work, try not to get banned today, okay?
Well, Bebo the Blue Peep has been in the thread a couple of times now. I assume that she has seen it, but nothing has happened yet. Poor misunderstood PRE can't participate in the conversation any more because we all misunderstand "the other side" of his intolerance.
I saw that, HD.
And *snort*. Does he think we are going to feel sorry for him for not being able to participate. Ummm, maybe bigotry is hard to understand? *shakes head*
*gasp*
*runs off to check*
Good for you carey! I think that is well said and it should not be a bannable offense. RR is the one doing the offending.
I have not been over to play, been fairly busy. I will check it out though.
*smooch*
Very well said and done, Babydoll.
Yes, I really like cahaya. He seems like a wonderful, gentle, smart and objective man with much respect for others opinions.
Plus, he loves TAR! *wink*
I made my own election/Gay Marriages thoughts on my own post.
Screw Rudy and I don't even know him.
*giggles*
Screw Rudy
I'll pass.
LMAO. I agree. That!!!! should be illegal.
Hey you!!
Either/or question...
Either screw Rudy or never have sex again for the rest of your life?
My answer:
Hell, I've gone this long without, what's 30 - 50 more years? *grin*
Never have sex again. And that is HUGE for me cuz I'm a perv.
I'd chose to have sex with Rudy just becauuse I know how uncomfortable --- physically and mentally --- it would be for him. "What? Was I supposed to use lube, Rudy? Sorry about that."
How pretty he would look with a pearl necklace.
Hey!!! It's my blog and I can be crude if I choose.
*LMAO*
Pearl necklace... That reminds me to pick up some extra-large anal beads for my night of passion with Rudy. How many you think I can shove inside him at once? Three? Five? Seven?
Hmmmm, he does seem to have the entire world shoved up his ass already. *grin*
HD, the fact that you can type that out and not choke on your own vomit makes me have serious doubts about you. *shudder* Jake and I will just be over here. Maybe it's best if you don't join us. *grin*
*faints*
Wow. Obviously I have missed something yet again.
Meh. Rudy has tried to fuck enough of us up the ass without lube in the past that it's only fair that he get a turn to find out how it feels.
Jen and Jake, I will wash my hands --- three times --- before I join you. And Rudy can keep the toys.
Well, it seems that Rudy did just admit that he was once attracted to men. I had to respond to that one, just to type it. Go get him, HD! Rowr!!
(You better wash more than just your hands. I will require you to bathe in antiseptic for at least a full 48 hours before you join us.)
Wow. I feel like I have so much insight now. Rudy is quite possibly a completely self-loathing, closeted gay man. He just said that when he was a teen, he chose to be straight. *boggle*
What most of you don't remember, was in the old days when the RR used to go in the bar chat and come on to all the women, whispering really creepy suggestive things. It was ubericky.
If he is just saying it to prove us wrong, he's even more of a moron than I had originally thought. Because no one is ever going to forget that he said it. And we won't let him forget it either.
Buggy? Ew.
Good for Jen! I loved Post #300!
Heh. Thanks, HD. I really do try to stay out of the deep end. I'm really not good at arguing effectively. Or arguing period. But I felt the need to stand up for my friends. And myself.
*smooches* all!
I am LMAO @ HD! *snort* Actually, HD, I found a site that has certain "toys", that would be perfect for you to use on RR. Syren knows the one I'm talking about. And she probably knows exactly which two toys I have in mind.
Oh, believe me, Arkie, I have a few ideas myself. By the time I got done with him, Rudy would need a colostomy bag the rest of his life. I've never experimented with watersports or scat before, but I think that my special night with Rudy would be a good time to start.
OK, I maybe the only one who doesn't know, but what is "scat"?
scat = poo
Scat makes me think of the worst picture I have ever seen on the internet. I am wondering whether or not to post an URL here.
It is uber uber uber gross and I have never seen anything like it in my life.
Okay, I can't post it. It's too revolting.
Coco made HD very curious!
Ha! If you want to see Dabo slam Rudy in the nicest possible way, have a look at #308.
Heh. I just read that one, too.
Post 313, I believe discusses my DEEP RESENMENT.
GO FUCK YOURSELF RUDY!!!!!!!
How is that for resentment you bigoted, hypocritical mother fucker.
YAY!!! I just read that --- twice --- then came here. Good job!
Are they in the bathtub/shower and one is scatting in the other ones mouth? Cuz that one was even too much for me.
So sorry, Monsty.
You know, I've always said I am open to try anything at least once (as long as it didn't involve children or animals), but now? I realize I'm not. I cannot see how that can be sexually exciting/satisfying to anyone.
Aawww, Rudy thinks it's getting personal.
I'm tepmted to send him a PM and ask him about it. I'd love to know his answer.
MM, I'm not saying who, but someone has. (Not me, though.)
Same image that I saw, PM.
I love how he thinks it's getting personal when the only thing that is stopping him from giving me equal rights is my sexual beahvior. I really can't think of anything more personal than that.
Ohhh, I think I'll go and post that.
I want to check so bad --- but that other place is moving so slow tonight!
Good for you, Carey. I finally got in there.
I would love to be kept posted on whatever the asshole has to say via PM.
It's not that pic. It's just as bad, if not worse, but ...
If you really can't cope, PM me at the other place. I am not putting it here.
Carey, I saw that you posted at 3:30 AM your time in that thread. I was reading it at 5:45 AM my time. Do you think that bigot ever loses any sleep over the horrible things he says?
HD, I truly believe that he doesn't lose any sleep over what he spews. Most self-righteous peeps are the same. He's not willing to see the other side. He never was and never will. He'll only continue to find ways to try to mask his bigotry with faux-stats and smiley faces.
Oh and the very first time I saw him in the bar, he whispered a smooch to me. WTF? I didn't even know the guy and he jumps in with a private smooch? I wasn't even chatting with him. I immediately sent him a note to never do that again. I only wish I had done it publicly. I was sickened. Effin pig!!! Of course I left the bar right after that.
I think he is finally getting a good case of STFU. And I'm glad the mods are letting us go. The moron can't even answer one direct question. I still think my favorite is his claim that our questioning his sexuality is too personal. *snort*
He just admitted in post #349 that he was attracted to men at one point. I guess you guys were right about his self-loathing.
I want to reply and just post "FAG"
*snort*
Or maybe say something like, "now that you've shown us how closeted homosexuals feel...(and then anything beyond that wouldn't really matter)
OMH! Did he really say that mm? Crap! Why can't I read OT from work :-(
LOL at Carey. If only you could point at him and call him a fag. Heh!
He did, and HD just said something to the effect that RR "dabbled in homosexuality" in response. Actually, he said much more than that and it was really, really good (of course all his replies are). I actually snorted! You'll have to read when you get home.
I don't believe RR for a second. I bet you this is just another one of his smoke screens. Now he's going to try to get sympathy from people.
I don't know. I think it would explain alot. But on the other hand, I cannot imagine him admitting it here, either. *shrug*
I just hope he's prepared to live with being costantly reminded about it. In a nice way, of course. :)
Here you go, Nookie:
I don't want to know the intimate details of your sex life. I don't think that anybody does, despite reports that I hear of some of the "dirty talk" that you used to engage in over at the bar.
Similarly, nobody else volunteers the intimate details of their sex life here. None of the straight women ever post anything along the lines of "And then I straddled him and slowly slid down ..."
Certainly you can see the difference between somebody saying "I am gay" and saying "I slowly spread his cheeks and positioned myself to ..."
Nobody ever asked to know the dirty little details of your experiences dabbling in homosexuality. They just wanted to know how, on a mental or intellectual level, you had grappled with this issue.
Is it just me, or does anybody else think that it is going to be Lasann's thread directly addressed to PRE and Rudy that will mobilize the mods?
Today? I worship HD.
That was so gratifying. Thank you, HD!
Holy Carp! What did he write?
Wow!
I think I am feeling feverish and must go home (so that I can access OT) *giggle*
I'm trying to get in over there, it's taking so damn long.
But yes, from what I already saw, that one is just asking for attention.
That's what I thought too, MM. I appreciate having newbies that share my views, but some of them are counterproductive!
Just out of curiosity, do you get an email notification every time somebody posts a comment, Carey?
She's a bit 'off' if you ask me, and believe it or not, she's been here for a long time, just relatively new to OT.
She will probably get locked if she hasn't already. Not a good idea to post names like that.
HD, I do get email on some of my threads here but once they reach a high number I turn the email notification off. I once had 96 emails in my inbox when I was away from the computer for awhile. *snort*
I miss the bar too. Unfortunately, and I won't name names, there is one person who is, or at least used to be, I don't know anymore, and I avoid him at all costs. I stopped going into the bar because of him and that is usually why I do not use my username when I do go to the bar. If he comes into the bar, I leave imeediately because I detest him that much. But I do miss the fun times that I used to have there. *sigh*
Karen, I miss those times in the bar, too. :(
Proud to be a Metawhore!
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