Monday, July 10, 2006

Rare serious post

I don't do these a lot. But today is a stepping stone in California for gay rights. I'm sure we will be beat down once again but it's worth noting anyhow.

http://tinyurl.com/pts52

Edited to add a second link in regards to Boston.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13802475/

45 Comments:

Blogger Glowie said...

It's definitely worth noting. Thanks for sharing that, Sunshine.

7/10/2006 8:02 AM  
Blogger Bravie said...

There's no reason that I should feel beaten and pissed off, all by myself. :)
*smooches Glowie*

7/10/2006 8:07 AM  
Blogger Schnookie said...

*holds hands with her sistahs*

I'm right there with you, completely pissed off.

7/10/2006 8:15 AM  
Blogger Bravie said...

Now don't go and have premature anger yet, Nookie. *giggle*
They will be in court most of the day today. We can get pissed off afterwards.

7/10/2006 8:18 AM  
Blogger Schnookie said...

LOL. But, I wanna feel the anger *grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*

Seriously, just pissed off that they have to go to court in the first place. *sigh* One day ... one day.

7/10/2006 8:30 AM  
Blogger Schnookie said...

Oopsy. That delete was me. I zombie-posted LOL.

7/10/2006 8:31 AM  
Blogger Bravie said...

Well in that case, you go ahead with your badass self and get pissed. I even give you permission to use the F-bomb, if you would like.

7/10/2006 8:35 AM  
Blogger Jen said...

*hoping that the courts surprise us all*

*hugs*

7/10/2006 8:35 AM  
Blogger Bravie said...

Me too, Jen.
The hearings are being held in the building where we were when you were here. That grassy area where we were sitting is right in front of both city hall and the court building.

7/10/2006 8:44 AM  
Blogger Zombs said...

*sigh*

I get so frustrated hearing all these rulings and such. I am still just stunned when I listen to the "other side" try to make their point. I can't even fathom how they rationalize it.

It is all just fear.

7/10/2006 9:52 AM  
Blogger Bravie said...

And unfortunately there are more "fearful" people than not. So we continue to be the 2nd class citizen.
Funny how illegal immigrants have more civil rights in our country than I do as a gay woman who was born here.
(not turning this intoan illegal immigrant rant. Was just a note)

7/10/2006 9:59 AM  
Blogger Schnookie said...

It's pretty fuckin' amazing isn't it Carey? *HUGS*

Nookie <---- using an F bomb cause Carey said I could :-)

7/10/2006 10:47 AM  
Blogger Bravie said...

*giggles*

7/10/2006 10:51 AM  
Blogger Glowie said...

ugh.

7/10/2006 10:55 AM  
Blogger Bravie said...

Yep. Should I go back to my dirty little cave now? Or wait until they make it official that I am a 2nd class citizen?

7/10/2006 10:56 AM  
Blogger Swami said...

I'm ready to get extra-special pissed off depending on what actually comes out of the court.

Remember, I am all primed from my attendance at nephew's wedding last month, which according to the minister might have been threatened by the very idea of gay marriage. He didn't say just why--evidently everyone present but Tom & I already knew. So far as I know the biggest threat to traditional marriage is hetero sex. I blame the failure of my first marriage directly on my attraction for another hetero guy.

Swami <--- smooches Carey without threatening her marriage.

<--- tans self in the glow of Nookie's F-bomb.

7/10/2006 11:21 AM  
Blogger Bravie said...

*giggle*
Swami is so darn cute.

7/10/2006 11:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

*cuddles with the girls again*

I don't really know what to say. It's just ridiculous that with all of the things in the world we need protection from, this, is deemed one of them.

I know that this sounds naive on my part, but I really do think one day things will change. And I really do think that it will be in your lifetime. Common sense and human compassion and decency will prevail.

7/10/2006 12:00 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

I agree with everything except the "in my lifetime". I honestly and truly doubt that things will be equal in my lifetime. Perhaps that comes from years of being defeated and years of getting my hopes up just to have them smashed back down.
People asked why Michelle and I didn't run to city hall when the Mayor was doing the marriage ceremonies.
We didn't for a couple of reasons.
1. It wasn't legal
and
2. There was rumor that it could interfere with our domestic partnership. There was no way that we were going to do anything that would mess up any legal rights that we already held.
And, as I knew would happen, the state brought it all crumbling down. Imagine the disappointment of all of those people who thought they were legally married.

7/10/2006 12:08 PM  
Blogger Schnookie said...

I'm afraid Bush has set back this country quite a few years. I used to have hope that I'd see changes in my lifetime. Sadly, I'm not so sure now.

7/10/2006 12:19 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

Bush is more evil than the devil, in my eyes. Not just for this reason. But this is my topic of the day.

7/10/2006 12:21 PM  
Blogger thndrkttn said...

So if it this does happen in this lifetime, can I fly out to SF and help you pick out your veil, dress, shoes, purse, flowers, save the date cards, invitations, favors, rehearsal dinner venue and menu, reception menu, music selections and rainbow colored ballon arch to walk under entering your reception? Please?! I soooo know you want the big fairy tale wedding! ;-)

7/10/2006 12:26 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

*snort* Tkit funny. ROFLMAO. *snort*
*holds belly* LMAO
*smooch* you silly girl. *giggle*

Go to Glow's blog. That is the closest anyone will ever get to seeing ME in a dress. LMAO

7/10/2006 12:33 PM  
Blogger thndrkttn said...

Oooh! The prairie skirt picture! Very nice. Loved the pics on her blogs of the parade peeps you guys met. I have to say, Glow has the best smile! Oh and there is nice photo on Syren's blog of some uh, flowers if you will. Nice!!

So where are you going to register? Tiffany's? Crate and Barrel? Best Buy?

7/10/2006 12:36 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

yes, all of the above. And Victoria's Secret. And Gucci and Coach. *grin*

7/10/2006 12:45 PM  
Blogger thndrkttn said...

Oooooh! I so should've registered at Coach instead of getting stoopid china and silverware. Smaht Cookie!! Now, are you beginning to change your mind about this wedding thing??!!

7/10/2006 1:28 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

Absolutely not!!!
LMAO

7/10/2006 1:31 PM  
Blogger mm said...

Speaking of Coach, my mom bought a new bag at a yard sale, paid $4 for it. I saw it on the website, it was almost $400. *boggle*

7/10/2006 1:34 PM  
Blogger mm said...

So, when do we know the outcome from this? today? And you know, I must say, being a selfish person and all, I never really thought much about this subject before I knew you, Carey. Ever since though, I've been trying to figure out what the "fear" is, and I don't get it.

{{hugs}}

7/10/2006 1:36 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

I'm not sure when we will know the outcome. It depends on how long they take in court.

I can understand, MM. It isn't until we know someone of a certain "group" that we have a personal stake in something. It isn't selfish.
For instance, I had never thought twice about research for autism. Not because I didn't care but because it hadn't crossed my mind. But now that I have a niece and I have some friends who have children with autism, it is something that I think about.

7/10/2006 1:38 PM  
Blogger mm said...

What's sad (to me) is that I have gay relatives, but it was you, who really made me think about it. Or maybe it's not sad, maybe it's just that I'm not very close to anyone on my dad's side of the family.

7/10/2006 1:43 PM  
Blogger mm said...

And *smooch*. Thanks for understanding.

7/10/2006 1:43 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

It's not sad. It's reality. I'm glad that I and perhpas some of the others have been able to open your eyes. And believe it or not, probably even Rudy has helped. He is on the extreme other side and sometimes it takes someone as ignorant as him to open people's eyes too.
*plants big smooch on MM*

7/10/2006 1:45 PM  
Blogger mm said...

It's true, people like Rudy *have* helped me see things differently (strike that, not differently, since I didn't have an opinion before, but differently than him, for sure). I know people who are not in favor of legalizing gay marriage, and though I haven't had in depth conversations with them as to why, I am ok with people having a right to their own opinion, but at the same time, opinions are all that are keeping you and Michelle from being recognized as married, and that just doesn't feel right to me.

And in response to what Swami said, I don't know. I'm pretty sure that over 50% of all traditional marriages ending in divorce, has got to have SOMETHING to do with the gays. /sarcasm

7/10/2006 2:00 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

I was able to change the mind of someone recently who was con gay marriage. He's still a damn conservative but at least now he understands the importance of equal rights for gays. Yay me.

7/10/2006 2:21 PM  
Blogger Rose said...

ugh.

I just can't believe that ANY citizen of this country can be treated this way. I'm only post- bi sexual, (before married). Does that mean that because I chose to have a man as a partner for life instead of a woman that I am officially now more of a person, individual, and patriot?

Kiss my ass US government.

Maybe I'll just become Amish. Or move in with coco and the all-stahs.

(*squints* and hopes that I have not offended anyone except the US government)

7/10/2006 2:26 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

*snort* You can rant in my blog anytime, Rose. *smooch*<--a girl on girl smooch. *gasp*

7/10/2006 3:14 PM  
Blogger Rose said...

sweet. I've been fiending for 5 years.

*giggle*

7/10/2006 3:56 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

It looks like it goes to the Supreme court in October? If I read that right? There will not be a ruling until at least then.
If you're interested in following the story, you can click on the link over ther---> on the right which is SFGate. They have the story over there.

7/10/2006 4:02 PM  
Blogger Rose said...

I'm retarded. I couldn't find the update.

*pout*

7/10/2006 4:43 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

Rose, honey, I believe that you must be mildly retarded. It is the first story on the page when you click the link. *giggle*
Titled:Majore test for gay unions.

7/10/2006 4:54 PM  
Blogger Rose said...

*sticks out tongue*

7/10/2006 6:27 PM  
Blogger Rose said...

*twitches*

7/10/2006 6:27 PM  
Blogger Rose said...

*drools*

Oh, there!

7/10/2006 6:27 PM  
Blogger Sonya said...

This is a great cause.

7/11/2006 11:12 AM  

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